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Re: Did you know?

Postby Zankou 2.0 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:23 am

WelshRarePasta wrote:
Zankou 2.0 wrote:Oh, I see. I don't put the comma or period inside the quotation marks unless it belongs there. If I were quotng someone on "Holy Shit!" I would include it, but if I were to type: "He said 'the apple is red'.", I wouldn't, because the period isn't part of the quotation. Notice that it is when I quote myself, though, with the outer set of quote marks.

Punctuation is silly, sometimes.


I'm with ya. Was just givin you a hard time! I spent a few awful years teaching grammar, so...

Did you know that punctuation goes inside quotation marks even when not part of the quotation? It is a strange but true feature of all standard grammar formats of common and academic English, but commonly disregarded by publishers and printers. Another feature of punctuation unknown to mortal man is that, contrary to what you might have been told, you should always include the last comma in a list (i.e., verbs, nouns, and commas is correct while verbs, nouns and commas is not). Again, thank the printers and publishers for that one.

I know the last one, but I am with the printers on the quotation marks. It makes no sense, otherwise.
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Re: Did you know?

Postby Edd » Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:09 pm

I knew about the comma one, too, but after years of seeing the last one omitted, I convinced myself I was wrong. Now, it feels wrong when I leave it in!

As far as quotation marks: I treat them like parentheses most of them time; the original punctuation of the phrase goes inside, all else, outside. Like Zankou said, any other way just doesn’t make as much sense.
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Postby Zankou 2.0 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:11 pm

Edd wrote:I knew about the comma one, too, but after years of seeing the last one omitted, I convinced myself I was wrong. Now, it feels wrong when I leave it in!

You don't pause before the last list item, when speaking?
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Re: Did you know?

Postby Edd » Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:30 pm

I do, and when I write I usually type that last comma as well, but when I look back at my sentence, it just looks wrong. For so long, I seemed to be the only one using that last comma and I began to doubt myself.

Okay, let me take a breath here.

I hereby re-commit myself to proper spelling, grammar, and punctuation. Thank you, WRP, Zankou, and everyone else! Today I have regained my confidence, self-reliance, and self-esteem.
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Re: Did you know?

Postby Zankou 2.0 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:40 pm

Edd wrote:I do, and when I write I usually type that last comma as well, but when I look back at my sentence, it just looks wrong. For so long, I seemed to be the only one using that last comma and I began to doubt myself.

Okay, let me take a breath here.

I hereby re-commit myself to proper spelling, grammar, and punctuation. Thank you, WRP, Zankou, and everyone else! Today I have regained my confidence, self-reliance, and self-esteem.


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Re: Did you know?

Postby black bart » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:39 am

Did you know that one of the worst defence statements in a court of law was this, by an accused thief who undertook his own defence at his trial. He asked this of his alleged victim:

Did you get a good look at my face when I took your purse?

He got ten years.
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Re: Did you know?

Postby black bart » Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:31 am

Did you know that New Zealander Captain Charles Hazlitt Upham is the only combatant officer to have won the Victoria cross twice.
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Re: Did you know?

Postby black bart » Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:02 am

Did you know that America is named after a Welshman?
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Re: Did you know?

Postby Edd » Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:32 pm

black bart wrote:Did you know that America is named after a Welshman?


Amerigo Vespucci was a Welshman?
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Re: Did you know?

Postby black bart » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:29 am

Edd wrote:
black bart wrote:Did you know that America is named after a Welshman?


Amerigo Vespucci was a Welshman?


No...but according to research conducted by an English College professor, America did not take its name from Amerigo Vespucci, but from a senior collector of Customs at Bristol, the main port from which English voyages of discovery sailed in the late 15th century. Dr. Basil Cottle, who is himself of Welsh birth, tells us that the official was Richard Amerik, one of the chief investors in the second transatlantic voyage of John Cabot, which led to the famous navigator receiving the King's Pension for his discoveries.
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Re: Did you know?

Postby black bart » Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:37 am

Did you know that the highest population of Tigers in the world is in the USA?
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Re: Did you know?

Postby cassles » Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:44 pm

did you know that there is a superman somewhere in every single episode of seinfield?

or that birds need gravity to swallow?

how about that the bikini is names after the site of a US nuclear weapon test?

i am the queen of useless facts...
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Re: Did you know?

Postby Dan (dat haole dude) » Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:19 pm

did you know that after the US blew up Bikini Atoll in the Marshall Islands group, there was very little left of Bikini at all?
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Re: Did you know?

Postby Zankou 2.0 » Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:40 pm

cassles wrote:did you know that there is a superman somewhere in every single episode of seinfield?

or that birds need gravity to swallow?

how about that the bikini is names after the site of a US nuclear weapon test?

i am the queen of useless facts...



Ahem.

I am the Purveyor of Triviality, tyvm.
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Re: Did you know?

Postby cassles » Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:21 pm

queen of useless facts is an altogether different thing...
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