Tigger_the_Wing wrote: Fancy a scientist ending a science book withStephen Hawking wrote:Then we shall all, philosophers, scientists, and just ordinary people, be able to take part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and the universe exist. If we find the answer to that, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason - for then we would know the mind of God.
No. Mr. Hawking, we wouldn't. If there is only one God and if that God is truly the creator of all (and is therefore outside the constraints of spacetime) we would only know what that God allows us to think (by the way our brains are constructed) about the universe and our place in it. We would still know absolutely nothing about what such a being thinks.
Actually, the book irritated me with the constant assumption that the human way of experiencing the universe and human intelligence -specifically, those influenced by western, Protestant Christian upbringings - are the only kinds in the universe and our interpretation isn't influenced by our being short-lived carbon-based lifeforms.
I GET YOUR POINT, BUT you must admit that "for then we would know the mind of God" sounds a lot better as an ending for his book than "for then we would know what God allows us to think about the universe and our place in it. We would still know absolutely nothing about what such a being thinks."
You gotta allow the poor guy a bit of poetic licence! I guess that's realy what he meant if you read between the lines... or maybe he just stuck in a token reference to a mythological beiong to keep the God-squad happy!
I seem to remember having started the book and never finishing it (fairly unusual for me for a book on such a theme!) I guess something must have irritated me too... can't remember what it was tho'. I think it all seemed a bit too glib and easy to me... or maybe I was reading it in a bad italian translation...
PS does the book really say "just ordinary people" and " be able to take part in the discussion of the question of why"? I guess it was contorted and ugly prose like that that turned me off!
PPS on the theme of irritating, can't you get your signature bug to calm down? I keep thying to swat him on my computer screen!