ATTN: All Authors of the Loose Canon Second Edition

[Nancy Delia]

I'll be happy to take any credit for other people's submissions if that will help

CF

Yes it would.

Your willingness to make things happen for our noodley Lord will be remembered when they read the Loose Canon 400 years from now.

what was this all about?

Have any of the Council of Olive Garden complained to Amazon yet about intellectual property theft - after all, as the compilers of the Loose Canon they surely have some say (I'm presuming that by submitting entries to it, individual Pastafarians are giving the Council of Olive Garden permission to use it and publish it - might be worth checking).

Also worth anyone who's work is in the Loose Canon reporting it to Amazon - after all the original authors still hold the copyright, even if they've given the Council of Olive Garden permission to use their work.

Alternatively - could we persuade Bobby Henderson to jump in. He, afterall, does own the original rights to the FSM and presumably could say that this edition, featuring the FSM, has been published without his permission.

Procedure for reporting IP theft to Amazon is here

CF

i'm starting to smell some bs.

[daftbeaker]

I'll be happy to take any credit for other people's submissions if that will help

CF

Yes it would.

Your willingness to make things happen for our noodley Lord will be remembered when they read the Loose Canon 400 years from now.

what was this all about?

The short version is that someone joined here, saw the Loose Cannon and decided to sell it for profit. This is despite the fact the Loose Cannon was intended to be distributed free of charge to anyone that wanted it. By claiming other peoples' work as their own and selling it this poster was not only breaking copyright law but also being fundamentally dishonest.

Imagine you spent time and effort putting together an explanation of what the FSM is, the message behind Pastafarianism and a history of our religion. It might well take you a hundred hours to get sorted, checked, proofread, altered, re-checked and perfected. You then decide to share that with anyone that wants it in the spirit of Pastafarianism. How would you feel if someone took your work, passed it off as their own and tried to make money from it?

Have any of the Council of Olive Garden complained to Amazon yet about intellectual property theft - after all, as the compilers of the Loose Canon they surely have some say (I'm presuming that by submitting entries to it, individual Pastafarians are giving the Council of Olive Garden permission to use it and publish it - might be worth checking).

Also worth anyone who's work is in the Loose Canon reporting it to Amazon - after all the original authors still hold the copyright, even if they've given the Council of Olive Garden permission to use their work.

Alternatively - could we persuade Bobby Henderson to jump in. He, afterall, does own the original rights to the FSM and presumably could say that this edition, featuring the FSM, has been published without his permission.

Procedure for reporting IP theft to Amazon is here

CF

i'm starting to smell some bs.

What is 'bs'? That a former poster claimed other peoples' intellectual property as their own? That is true. That the former poster published other peoples' work as their own in an attempt to profit from it? That is also true. That none of the actual authors (the people that wrote the intellectual property) consented to their work being published for a former poster's profit? That is also true. I fail to see where any 'bs' is.

[Nancy Delia]

The short version is that someone joined here, saw the Loose Cannon and decided to sell it for profit. This is despite the fact the Loose Cannon was intended to be distributed free of charge to anyone that wanted it. By claiming other peoples' work as their own and selling it this poster was not only breaking copyright law but also being fundamentally dishonest.

Imagine you spent time and effort putting together an explanation of what the FSM is, the message behind Pastafarianism and a history of our religion. It might well take you a hundred hours to get sorted, checked, proofread, altered, re-checked and perfected. You then decide to share that with anyone that wants it in the spirit of Pastafarianism. How would you feel if someone took your work, passed it off as their own and tried to make money from it?

i know about all of that. i own a copy of this book and i have been reading the reviews/comments on amazon. you are talking about Eric Whitfield or "peacefulsongs". (i'm assuming that is the same person based upon what i have been reading in here.) i know all of that. that is not what i was questioning.

What is 'bs'? That a former poster claimed other peoples' intellectual property as their own? That is true. That the former poster published other peoples' work as their own in an attempt to profit from it? That is also true. That none of the actual authors (the people that wrote the intellectual property) consented to their work being published for a former poster's profit? That is also true. I fail to see where any 'bs' is.

i wasn't referring to any of that. what is cardinal fang's role in all of this? that is the bs that i was referring to.

Read this.

I'll be happy to take any credit for other people's submissions if that will help

CF

it is the 12th post in this thread. it is the 12th post in the thread titled, "ATTN: All Authors of the Loose Canon Second Edition".

[daftbeaker]

What is 'bs'? That a former poster claimed other peoples' intellectual property as their own? That is true. That the former poster published other peoples' work as their own in an attempt to profit from it? That is also true. That none of the actual authors (the people that wrote the intellectual property) consented to their work being published for a former poster's profit? That is also true. I fail to see where any 'bs' is.

i wasn't referring to any of that. what is cardinal fang's role in all of this? that is the bs that i was referring to.

Read this.

I'll be happy to take any credit for other people's submissions if that will help

CF

it is the 12th post in this thread. it is the 12th post in the thread titled, "ATTN: All Authors of the Loose Canon Second Edition".

I will leave it to the unexpected Cardinal to explain herself but the way that I interpreted it (and I assume everyone else did, given the lack of outcry on here) is that Cardinal Fang was willing to act on other peoples' behalf so that there wasn't every author complaining and talking at cross-purposes. This would have been especially appreciated when several of the authors had stressful situations in real life and couldn't spare the time to deal with someone stealing their work.

Just so you're aware, I've been a member here for around 6 years now. In all that time I have never seen Cardinal Fang behave even slightly inappropriately, unethically or immorally (whereas I have frequently launched into offensive drunken rants). I find it incredibly difficult to believe her comfy-chair-ness has done anything that could be considered 'bs'. Qwerty on the other hand...

[Nef Yoo BlackBeard]

I'll be happy to take any credit for other people's submissions if that will help

CF

Yes it would.

Your willingness to make things happen for our noodley Lord will be remembered when they read the Loose Canon 400 years from now.

what was this all about?

Have any of the Council of Olive Garden complained to Amazon yet about intellectual property theft - after all, as the compilers of the Loose Canon they surely have some say (I'm presuming that by submitting entries to it, individual Pastafarians are giving the Council of Olive Garden permission to use it and publish it - might be worth checking).

Also worth anyone who's work is in the Loose Canon reporting it to Amazon - after all the original authors still hold the copyright, even if they've given the Council of Olive Garden permission to use their work.

Alternatively - could we persuade Bobby Henderson to jump in. He, afterall, does own the original rights to the FSM and presumably could say that this edition, featuring the FSM, has been published without his permission.

Procedure for reporting IP theft to Amazon is here

CF

i'm starting to smell some bs.

Ummm , the cardinal was being humourous , the smell is not real .
In fact , given the context , the cardinal's quip is ironically funny in a slightly twisted fashion .

Young jedi , there is much you are not aware of .

[Nancy Delia]

I will leave it to the unexpected Cardinal to explain herself but the way that I interpreted it (and I assume everyone else did, given the lack of outcry on here) is that Cardinal Fang was willing to act on other peoples' behalf so that there wasn't every author complaining and talking at cross-purposes. This would have been especially appreciated when several of the authors had stressful situations in real life and couldn't spare the time to deal with someone stealing their work.

Just so you're aware, I've been a member here for around 6 years now. In all that time I have never seen Cardinal Fang behave even slightly inappropriately, unethically or immorally (whereas I have frequently launched into offensive drunken rants). I find it incredibly difficult to believe her comfy-chair-ness has done anything that could be considered 'bs'. Qwerty on the other hand...

that sounds pretty reasonable to me. we'll see what cardinal fang says about it.

[StJason]

I'm still around, FWIW.

...you might want to post the list to the two Facebook groups, as that is where most of the action these days seems to be...

[Cardinal Fang]

Ummm , the cardinal was being humourous , the smell is not real .
In fact , given the context , the cardinal's quip is ironically funny in a slightly twisted fashion .

Young jedi , there is much you are not aware of .

Basically that - I was being flippant and sarcastic - hence the at the end.

For reference, so I can go back to being my bitter and twisted self, I do not approve of, or condone any form of intellectual property theft (i.e. some git stealing the Loose Canon and selling for their own profit).

Now that's sorted, back to the sex and violence...

CF

[Cardinal Fang]

Addition - I do not have any writings incorporated into the Loose Canon, so I cannot as a result make a direct complaint for copyright theft myself. However as many others do have a just right to do so (the authors of the Loose Canon, and it's compilers, The Council of Olive Garden), that is the reason why I posted information about how they might enter a formal complaint to Amazon against the person who illegally published the Loose Canon without and authority.

However, I appreciate that not all of the authors might have time etc to deal with individual complaints themselves, but the rules do allow for them to officially appoint someone to do so on their behalf if they wish (and I'm not suggesting anyone appoint me BTW - I have enough to do with torturing heretics with soft cushions, flinging badgers with trebuchet, and training my army of attack slugs for my world domination attempt), but perhaps if someone, say a Member of the Council of Olive Garden, chose to coordinate responses and actions, it would be allowable.

CF

[daftbeaker]

Now that's sorted, back to the sex and violence...

When is this happening? I must have missed that evil moderator memo

[Nancy Delia]

back to the sex and violence...

CF

Now that's sorted, back to the sex and violence...

When is this happening? I must have missed that evil moderator memo

you guys are thinking about a different religion.

[Monobaz]

I'll be happy to take any credit for other people's submissions if that will help

CF

Yes it would.

Your willingness to make things happen for our noodley Lord will be remembered when they read the Loose Canon 400 years from now.

what was this all about?

Have any of the Council of Olive Garden complained to Amazon yet about intellectual property theft - after all, as the compilers of the Loose Canon they surely have some say (I'm presuming that by submitting entries to it, individual Pastafarians are giving the Council of Olive Garden permission to use it and publish it - might be worth checking).

Also worth anyone who's work is in the Loose Canon reporting it to Amazon - after all the original authors still hold the copyright, even if they've given the Council of Olive Garden permission to use their work.

Alternatively - could we persuade Bobby Henderson to jump in. He, afterall, does own the original rights to the FSM and presumably could say that this edition, featuring the FSM, has been published without his permission.

Procedure for reporting IP theft to Amazon is here

CF

i'm starting to smell some bs.

Ummm , the cardinal was being humourous , the smell is not real .
In fact , given the context , the cardinal's quip is ironically funny in a slightly twisted fashion .

Young jedi , there is much you are not aware of .

Yes Nef Yoo, or is it that only a sanctimonious prat would insinuate the revered Cardinal Fang might be on the take.

[Cardinal Fang]

Stop shouting!!!

(You're disturbing the attack slugs)

CF

[daftbeaker]

Stop shouting!!!

(You're disturbing the attack slugs)

CF

I could ban him? I'm still trying to understand what all the moderating buttons do, this could be a good experiment. Monobaz will end up either banned, without an avatar or be put in charge of the entire board

[Auntie Blackbeard]

AAAAARRRRRGH

WEARRRE B THATTT BLAGGGGARRRRD WOT B SAYIN' ME FAVRIT CARRRDINAL B ONNA TAKE?
Oi'll 'ave 'er walk thee plank inn shark hinfestered wotterrrrs fer 'er trubbel
Yaaaarrrrrghh