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Does this mean we can get FSM license plates too??!!??

Postby Mac N. Cheez » Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:17 pm

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1


Florida lawmakers debate offering a Christian license plate

Apr 24 03:56 AM US/Eastern
By JESSICA GRESKO
Associated Press Writer

MIAMI (AP) - Florida drivers can order more than 100 specialty license plates celebrating everything from manatees to the Miami Heat, but one now under consideration would be the first in the nation to explicitly promote a specific religion.
The Florida Legislature is considering a specialty plate with a design that includes a Christian cross, a stained-glass window and the words "I Believe."

Rep. Edward Bullard, the plate's sponsor, said people who "believe in their college or university" or "believe in their football team" already have license plates they can buy. The new design is a chance for others to put a tag on their cars with "something they believe in," he said.

If the plate is approved, Florida would become the first state to have a license plate featuring a religious symbol that's not part of a college logo. Approval would almost certainly face a court challenge.

The problem with the state manufacturing the plate is that it "sends a message that Florida is essentially a Christian state" and, second, gives the "appearance that the state is endorsing a particular religious preference," said Howard Simon, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida.

The "I Believe" license plate still has a way to go before it reaches the roads. The proposal is part of a package of license plates being debated in the Senate and ready for a floor vote. In the House, the bill that would authorize the plate has passed one committee 8-2. The Legislature's annual session ends May 2.

Some lawmakers say the state should be careful. Rep. Kelly Skidmore said she is a Roman Catholic and goes to Mass on Sundays, but she believes the "I Believe" plate is inappropriate for the government to produce.

"It's not a road I want to go down. I don't want to see the Star of David next. I don't want to see a Torah next. None of that stuff is appropriate to me," said Skidmore, a Democrat who voted against the plate in committee. "I just believe that."

Florida's specialty license plates require the payment of additional fees, some of which go to causes the plates endorse.

One plate approved in 2004, displaying the motto "Family First," funds Sheridan House, which provides family programs but also sees its purpose as "sharing the Gospel of Jesus Christ, the Bible" and "information about the Christian faith."

The bill creating the "I Believe" plate would also create an "In God We Trust" plate to benefit the children of soldiers and law enforcement officers whose parents have died. It also could face opposition as a violation of the separation of church and state.

An Indiana plate with the same "In God We Trust" phrase has been challenged by the ACLU, but the courts so far have deemed it legal, arguing that it is comparable with other specialty plates.

This isn't the first time a Florida license plate design has created religious controversy. In 1999, lawmakers approved a bright yellow "Choose Life" license plate with a picture of a boy and girl. It raises money for agencies that encourage women to not have abortions.

That generated a court battle, with abortion rights groups saying the plate had religious overtones. But it was ruled legal, and about a dozen states now have similar plates.

A "Trust God" license plate was proposed in Florida in 2003. It would have given money to Christian radio stations and charities, but was never produced.

Earlier this year, a legislative committee was shown an image of a "Trinity" plate that showed a Christlike figure with his arms outstretched. It and two other plates were voted down.

The group asking for the "I Believe" plate, the Orlando-based nonprofit Faith in Teaching Inc., supports faith-based schools activities. The plate would cost drivers an extra $25 annual fee.

Approving the plate could open the state to legal challenges, according to Josie Brown, who teaches constitutional law at the University of South Carolina. And it's not certain who would win.

"It would be an interesting close call," Brown said.

Simon, of the ACLU, said approval of the plate could prompt many other groups to seek their own designs, and they could claim discrimination if their plans were rejected. That could even allow the Ku Klux Klan to get a plate, Simon said.

Bullard, the plate's sponsor, isn't sure all groups should be able to express their preference. If atheists came up with an "I Don't Believe" plate, for example, he would probably oppose it.

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Postby thelastpirate » Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:36 pm

Bullard, the plate's sponsor, isn't sure all groups should be able to express their preference. If atheists came up with an "I Don't Believe" plate, for example, he would probably oppose it.


Im going to simmer with rage and indignation for a few minutes now.

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Postby PantyGnawer » Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:44 pm

I'm pretty sure that Florida also has Pro-Life license plates.


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Postby c_m_f » Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:29 pm

I 'shopped us up a license plate for when Florida finally starts treating all religions equally. Check it out here: http://www.gearbits.com/archives/2008/04/religious_licen.html

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Postby minicarma07 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:12 pm

I want one !!!

We all know this will never get passed through. The first person to get a ticket will scream religious persecution.

Religions that are not allowed to have pictures of their diety will complain they have to view everyone elses religious tags.
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Postby c_m_f » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:36 am

minicarma07 wrote:We all know this will never get passed through. The first person to get a ticket will scream religious persecution.


You really think Florida would let non-Christians be cops?

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Postby Moral Minority » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:01 am

I want a FSM licence plate.

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Postby Robbobrob » Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:06 pm

I love my FSM decal. Much more classy than some stupid license plate.....rather the government not tag out cars anyway.

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Postby Namowal Namowal » Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:12 pm

The bill creating the "I Believe" plate would also create an "In God We Trust" plate to benefit the children of soldiers and law enforcement officers whose parents have died. It also could face opposition as a violation of the separation of church and state.

Crass how they tied this in with helping kids who've lost parents in the line of duty. Thus anyone who thinks the plate is a bad idea gets cast as the bad guy who "doesn't want to help the poor kids..."
Sheesh

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Postby PantyGnawer » Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:01 pm

Namowal Namowal wrote:
The bill creating the "I Believe" plate would also create an "In God We Trust" plate to benefit the children of soldiers and law enforcement officers whose parents have died. It also could face opposition as a violation of the separation of church and state.

Crass how they tied this in with helping kids who've lost parents in the line of duty. Thus anyone who thinks the plate is a bad idea gets cast as the bad guy who "doesn't want to help the poor kids..."
Sheesh



Not to sound crass, but are you new to this whole experience we call American government?

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Postby jump_in_the_pit » Wed May 21, 2008 2:27 am

In response to the Indiana "In God We Trust" no extra-fee vanity plate, our local CFI-Indiana branch had some license plate frames made and offers them for $10 US. They are black with chrome lettering (all plastic) saying, "Promote Science and Reason". Contact the Indiana branch if you want one. We only intended them to be sold locally, but could probably do some shipping if you can send money to cover those fees. :)
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Postby stott_s » Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:50 am

jump_in_the_pit wrote:In response to the Indiana "In God We Trust" no extra-fee vanity plate, our local CFI-Indiana branch had some license plate frames made and offers them for $10 US. They are black with chrome lettering (all plastic) saying, "Promote Science and Reason". Contact the Indiana branch if you want one. We only intended them to be sold locally, but could probably do some shipping if you can send money to cover those fees. :)


Do you think they'd send one to Canada?
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Re: Does this mean we can get FSM license plates too??!!??

Postby Rextu » Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:57 am

It's a bloody number plate! If there's already 100 varieties, who cares if they make religious ones?
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